forum-experiment!

För att i vetenskapligt syfte undersöka problematiken med orden African American, black, etc lade jag som ett experiment ut inlägg på två olika forum på nätet: The Forum Site och Liberty News Forum. På Liberty News togs inte min fråga på allvar, kanske för att en idiot (?) citerade mina inlägg och sedan skrev ”Yeah right!  ::)” och ”Sure it is.  Wink

Menmen. På Forum Site har jag än så länge fått runt 25 svar, några nonsens-svar, men flera seriösa. Nedan tänkte jag återge de mest intressanta svaren. Jag har även en poll där man kan välja den benämning som man föredrar. Än så länge leder ”black”. Klicka här för att läsa hela tråden.

Min fråga:

Hi everybody!
I am a Swedish student writing my thesis in translation theory. My essay is about political correctness in translating a text, which contains lots of words regarding ethnicity, ”race” and culture.
I’m trying to figure out how African Americans (and Caucasian Americans too) feel about certain words like:
African American
black
people of color
colored (I know this is offensive – what do YOU think are the reasons for this? and how did it become offensive? I have my own theories, but I want yours too!)
any other suggestions?
Thanks for your help in advance!
p.s. I am also writing about the words Hispanic, Latino, Mexican-American (and all other ”brown” terms), Native American, Indian, white, Caucasian, Eskimo, race, ethnicity, nationality – so if anyone has any opinions about these too – go ahead!!

Charles:

Oh By the way on the subject of colour. I’m not white. I’m a little pink and if exposed to the cold can be blue. If exposed to the sun I go a lovely red colour and my hair is now silver and never grey.

iwannano:

I voted ‘other’ and here’s my comment. I have been around Spanish Americans and Mexicans from Mexico all my life, My family are Irish/German ,you mentioned your next deal would be about the ‘brown ‘ skined folks. Unles they are from /citizens of another country we all be Americans. With the exception of the Native Americans , all of our families came here from somewhere else. Where I live there has aways been only 3 colors of skin, Brown , White and a mix of brown and white. I have a real problem with this BS of racism in this ‘modern’ days , so , by voting ‘other’ I want to call an American ‘American ‘ .

freefufu:

I am a black(or whatever adjective pleases you) person….lol… and I am always trying to keep up with the words that are supposed to offend me… Does it really matter what you want to call me?
What do you suggest I call white people? white, uncolored, European, Caucasian or other?
If you have an answer to this question then you have your answer to the previous question.

moonscar:

Well it’s not really black people who started the whole thing. I notice that when white people title youtube video’s that happen to have a black guy in it they say ” black guy falls on his face” instead of ” guy falls on his face”. Though if the video contained a white person of their own race they would title it ” Guy falls on his face”

Spinkiegirl:

I would have to say……most blacks I know…..don’t want to be called a ”colored person”…..i’am half black and half white..born in the USA so…I just like to be called by my name…..it’s Spinkiegirl on here!!

dazedapathy:

[…] In my opinion, I think it’s politically more correct and culturally more polite to use the term ”African American”.

crazylikeafox:

I think Black, White, Hispanic, and Asian are fine. I don’t really like the Blank-American for 2 reasons. 1st, it makes it sound like you’re a Blank 1st and an American 2nd (if that’s too confusing, it makes it sound like an African-American is African 1st and American 2nd). 2nd, it leaves out those of us like me who are something like 1/4 German with English, Irish, Dutch, Swiss, posibly Jewish (that’s what my last name is, anyways), and probably other races I can’t think of. How would you posibly categorize that? The only exception I would make are Native Americans, because saying Indian or Indian-American could mean either a Native person or someone who’s family came from India, which could get a little confusing.

weaksauce:

i think these type of topics are not helpful at all. Sprinkiegirl dont take this at all the wrong way. when a question like this is asked in what ever medium it can amount to nothing good. it leaves open a huge hole for racist remarks. u might want to know what other peoples names are for other or the same race they are but does it really matter? in my opinion it doesnt matter what we call anyone as long as they dont take offense to it. i think that the biggest problem in ”racial” conflicts is the fact that we just cant move on. and that is the same on both side of issue. so lets move on. we all are people trying in life. we all put our pants on the same way. one leg at a time.

inZane:

For me t depends on the situation. My friend Kim was telling me the other day that he prefers to be called black instead of African American.
He said: ”Black people are called ‘african american’ and I don’t get it. No one calls white people ‘irish/german/ect. american’.”
To me, it depends on the situation. Most of the time I say black. Just like I prefer ”white” not ”caucasian”.

Spinkiegirl:

Being an American and half black myself…..I believe most blacks in this country prefer to just be called black….or better still…by their birth-name…whatever that maybe!!

Annonser

3 thoughts on “forum-experiment!

  1. 🙂
    Jag kom och tänka på ett citat av Frank Zappa på direkten.
    ”Hey, you know something people? I’m not black, but there’s a whole lots a times I wish I could say I’m not white.” –Frank Zappa

    /nisse

  2. Så sant så sant. En viktig sak jag lärt mig, och som jag ska göra stort nummer av i uppsatsen (så stort jag vetenskapligt kan iaf), är att folk är galet trötta på att bli kategoriserade för hur de ser ut och vad deras ursprung råkar vara. När jag började med detta projekt trodde jag att det var jätteviktigt för folk vad andra kallar dem, men det visade sig vara kanske inte helt fel, men åtminstone lätt överdrivet. Jag har väl läst för många artiklar och böcker i ämnet.

  3. Det kanske är så att bli påmind om det och bli kategoriserad är något som inte hör till vardagen. Jag blir inte inte påmind varje dag om att jag bor i ett I-land är vit och har det allmänt bra. Om jag blev påmind om det hela tiden skulle jag nog bli irriterad.
    Jag var på någon idrottsföreläsning för några år sedan om hur 11-15 killar blir män i fotbollslaget. En av de intressanta sakerna där var att väldigt många var intresserade av att skriva hur invandrartjejer ska integreras i idrotten. Det är populära områden att skriva om och de personerna har träffat mängder av folk som frågat dom massa skumma frågor.
    Läste en artikel som var intressant som har anknytning till detta ämne: http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htterr/articles/20081124.aspx

    /nisse

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